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oettingerdave from United Kingdom (Wales) posted @ 15 November 2009 18:22:13 |
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1990 Corrado 1.8 16V
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Hi Everyone, I have always wanted a carrado as I'm also a proud owner of a mk2 GTi estoril edition. recently I've bought a oettinger corrado, apparent its the real thing.. its got id under bonnet, oettinger wheels, steering wheel and gear knob..if recieved a large file with the car full of reciepts. Is there anyone out there that knows more about the history of this car..i.e: did oettinger make a 1.8 16v during the 90's as I cant find any details about the car e.t.c and how many was made or sold in the uk..
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M4RTiN |
M4RTiN from Netherlands (Friesland) posted @ 16 November 2009 20:20:36 |
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1993 Corrado R32 1989 Corrado 1.9 TDI
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as you can see Tornado's link we have another Oettinger tuned 1.8 16v Corrado here so it's for a fact that this does exist!
Please put some pic's online, curious about the wheels
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Tornado |
Tornado from Cyprus (Cyprus) posted @ 16 November 2009 20:32:19 |
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1990 Corrado 1.8 G60
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...Even if the official Oettinger Corrado 16V was a 2.0L (named 2000E)...Maybe i'm wrong, but from my research i've never actually seen an official 1.8 16V KR Oettinger Corrado. It's also a fact that many during the 90's bought specific individual parts from Oettinger dealers (such as wheels, steerings, cams, exhausts etc) and modified their Corrados themselves and renamed them Oettinger Corrados. Perhaps someone here with more actual facts can correct me if i'm wrong...but in either case i really want to see your Corrado mate
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oettingerdave |
oettingerdave from United Kingdom (Wales) posted @ 17 November 2009 00:11:37 |
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1990 Corrado 1.8 16V
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ITS A GENUINE OETTINGER MODED CORRADO! ITS GOT THE BADGE(STICKER) UNDER THE BONNET FROM OETTINGER SHOWING PART NO: FOR ALL MODS.. ALTHOUGH ENGINE LOOKS LIKE A STD 1.8 16V..IT HAS GOT AN ALLOY SUMP AND OETTINGER NUMBER ON TOP OF GRILL...
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PSQ2000 |
PSQ2000 from Germany (Nordrhein-Westfalen) posted @ 21 December 2009 20:32:49 |
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There is no "official" Oettinger Corrado.
All 16v Oettinger Corrados are based on the 1,8 KR Engine, the tuning set for the 2.0 9A appeared after "Oettinger Okrasa Inh. Gerhard Oettinger" changed to "Oettinger Performance GmbH" because of financial problems.
I do not know any changed 9a Oettinger.
The Engine (2000E) is based on a 1.8 KR with changed crankshaft and pistons, camshaft, modified cylindre head, air intake and engine controle.
With catalysator there are 170HP (like mine), without 182HP.
All other parts like bodykit, wheels, gearbox, brakes (from G60), gearknob, steering wheel, and so on, coul be ordered seperately.
The are also many "mixed" models, one has only wheels and suspesion from Oettinger, other have only the "small" engine tuning like camshaft and oil sump, other have only Oettinger interior.
If you have the increased power noted in your car papers, you can be sure your Corrado is one of them which have been sold by Oettinger as NEW modded car.
For more information, contact me! Perhaps i have got some parts you like...
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PSQ2000 |
PSQ2000 from Germany (Nordrhein-Westfalen) posted @ 21 December 2009 21:05:44 |
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Hehe... since may 2009 it began to become my hobby. I started collecting every Oettinger part which appeared on ebay
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Tornado |
Tornado from Cyprus (Cyprus) posted @ 21 December 2009 21:14:33 |
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1990 Corrado 1.8 G60
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Do you know if Oettinger developed any engine performance parts for the G60 Corrado???
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PSQ2000 |
PSQ2000 from Germany (Nordrhein-Westfalen) posted @ 21 December 2009 21:49:22 |
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yes.
there is a complete kit, similar to the 2000E, more information can i give you tomorrow because the brochures are standing in the sleeping room, my wife and my daughter are sleeping.
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mustang877 |
mustang877 from Poland (Podlaskie) posted @ 21 December 2009 22:49:09 |
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1992 Corrado 2.9 VR6 1992 Corrado 2.0 16V 1993 Corrado 2.0 16V
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Can You give me more technical and other information about 2000E engine? because I'm very interested about that.
# CORRADO CLUB POLAND #
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2,0 16V 9A
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PSQ2000 |
PSQ2000 from Germany (Nordrhein-Westfalen) posted @ 22 December 2009 21:21:29 |
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First, there were two Types of the 2000e/16v engines build.
The older one had less power, and was a "real" oettinger engine, with 16v cylindre head build by oettinger, and the typical oettinger intake.
Unfortunately I got no more information about this engine.
The second version, the later one, was build from the Volkswagen KR Engine, it got the same modification and oettinger parts like the first version, but was with modified VW head and with modified VW intake.
This engine was used in corrados and available with catalysator.
I got this engine in my Corrado, information you get in my profile in German yet, I try to work on my page to translate this evening.
@tornado:
Oettinger G60 kits, from genuine Oettinger price list:
"Oettinger PG1800 G60/Kat"
Based on 160HP G60 engine, only available for corrado without A/C
Bore: 81,0mm
Stroke: 86,4mm
Cylinder capacity: 1781ccm
Compression: 8,0:1
Power: 140kw/190HP
Max. Torque: 246Nm at 4400rpm
Constructive changes compared to standart engine:
-bigger Intercooler
-changed camshaft (266
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mustang877 |
mustang877 from Poland (Podlaskie) posted @ 22 December 2009 22:18:15 |
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1992 Corrado 2.9 VR6 1992 Corrado 2.0 16V 1993 Corrado 2.0 16V
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Thanks a lot for your informations. Do you have some photos of this engine?
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2,0 16V 9A
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PSQ2000 |
PSQ2000 from Germany (Nordrhein-Westfalen) posted @ 22 December 2009 22:30:27 |
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my profile ist updated.
the "old" 2000e looks like the smaller 1600e engine, similar so this
http://www.techtonicstuning.com/images/oettinger.JPG
the "new" one, like used in the corrados, is optically an 1,8 KR with alumininum sump.
You hear the difference, and you feel it - very much faster than 2.0 9a, and more fun to drive than modified g60 (wonderful power distribution, much power at low rpm)
I even like it more than v6.
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Bic la Rasouille |
Bic la Rasouille from France (Bretagne) posted @ 25 December 2009 20:19:15 |
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1993 Corrado 2.9 VR6 1995 Corrado 2.0i 8V
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and for the VR6... anything from Oettinger ??
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Tornado |
Tornado from Cyprus (Cyprus) posted @ 26 December 2009 18:39:09 |
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1990 Corrado 1.8 G60
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Those bhp numbers for the Oettinger G60 engine is not that great...i would expect more from this kind of modifications (cam, cylinder head mod, etc) Nowdays, you can get 190bhp with smaller pulley, chip and cam...
Are those maybe whp???
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mustang877 |
mustang877 from Poland (Podlaskie) posted @ 27 December 2009 01:18:22 |
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1992 Corrado 2.9 VR6 1992 Corrado 2.0 16V 1993 Corrado 2.0 16V
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tornado i think is Bhp, look at the power in tuned N/A engines 2000E or Vr6... is simmilar, Oettinger gives to us only 25 in Vr6 max... 46 HP in 2000E to each of engines, so is not so many too.
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2,0 16V 9A
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Tornado |
Tornado from Cyprus (Cyprus) posted @ 27 December 2009 10:12:40 |
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However, 30 bhp over standard for a s/charged engine (using boost) is not that much...I can understand and actually it's a very good increase over standard for the 16v or the VR6 which are N/A (25-45 bhp for those two is very good). Maybe they only did that to the G60 in order not to lose credibility (you know how g-laders blown,lol)
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mustang877 |
mustang877 from Poland (Podlaskie) posted @ 27 December 2009 13:16:55 |
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1992 Corrado 2.9 VR6 1992 Corrado 2.0 16V 1993 Corrado 2.0 16V
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yeah You're right maybe this is the reason (lol) and I think when Oettinger will build engine +100Hp or more than series they are lost many costumers because price of this engine will be very big.- more power...many more costs
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2,0 16V 9A
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PSQ2000 |
PSQ2000 from Germany (Nordrhein-Westfalen) posted @ 27 December 2009 14:37:19 |
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Oettinger has built the 2000E engine not to increase the peak power, they wanted to build an engine which has more power on a very long rpm space.
They even increased the Torque more than the BHP.
I don not know, if this is the same by G60 and VR6.
The second part is, nowadays you get "tuning kits" for every car, increasing at least +30HP only by a chip...
Its very rare, to get this veryfied...
I had a modified G60 myself, I killed the engine last year. Believing to all sellers of the used parts, it must have had ~220HP - I think there were only ~190 (276
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Tornado |
Tornado from Cyprus (Cyprus) posted @ 27 December 2009 15:00:50 |
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I can understand Oettinger wanting more low end torque for the 16V (which lacks low end torque-i had one i know, lol ) hell, even for the VR6...but why would it want low end torque increase for the G60 The G60 even in standard form has much low end torque (remember it's equal to the bhp in most cases).
All i'm saying is that i would expect more power from all that mods and on top of those also cylinder head modification. It is dyno proven that tuning kits for the G60 incl. smaller pulley, cam, chip, exhaust, FPR, RSR etc other bolt-on stuff can make easily 200 bhp (approx. 175 at the wheels) without even touching the cylinder head...
Btw, with those modification u describe u had done to your G60 (before it blowed ) i would say that the 220bhp number must be correct (190bhp sounds a bit low for all that stuff)
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PSQ2000 from Germany (Nordrhein-Westfalen) posted @ 27 December 2009 22:38:42 |
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Its very difficult to compare charged engines with not-charged...
I think, my G60 could have had more than 190HP - but it was never dyno proved, and so I am very careful with anything I am saying about this...
But I think we should not use this topic for discussions like that!?
Paul
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Oekern |
Oekern from Norway (Akershus) posted @ 6 January 2010 10:30:14 |
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1990 Corrado 1.8 G60
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This is good reading. The history of the Corrado never stops.
Fill in with more info about the Oettinger, if there
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